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Paul Volcker on Trump, The Apprentice charity donation meeting



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  • Former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker recounted his
    two meetings with President Donald Trump during an interview with
    The New York Times.
  • In 1987, Trump ran across a New York City street to introduce
    himself to Volcker.
  • Later, Volcker had lunch with Trump to suggest the
    then-reality TV star use “The Apprentice” to raise money for
  • Trump did not follow Volcker’s idea.

Former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker’s longest meeting
with President Donald Trump was not an Oval Office meeting to
discuss policy, according to a new report, but rather an
unsuccessful attempt to get Trump to be more charitable.

an interview
with the New York Times’ Andrew Ross Sorkin
his new memoir
, Volcker recounted two meetings with the
now-president. They both took place well before Trump got
anywhere close to the Oval Office.

The first encounter with Trump came in 1987, when the then-real
estate investor yelled at Volcker from across a New York City
street and then rushed across to shake the central banker’s hand.
Volcker had by that time already left the Fed.

The only other meeting, Volcker told the Times, came during
Trump’s run as the host of the reality TV show “The Apprentice.”
The former Fed Chairman said he tried to convince Trump to use
the “Apprentice” platform to raise money for charity.

“We had a very nice lunch, and he said, ‘Interesting idea,’
but put me off otherwise,” Volcker told the Times.

According to Sorkin, Volcker’s suggestion was ultimately
unsuccessful, though the celebrity edition of “The Apprentice”
did see contestants donate winnings to a charity of their

Outside of the two encounters, Trump has not asked Volcker
for advice on monetary or economic policy as Barack Obama did.
And the former Fed Chairman isn’t particularly fond of Trump,
according to the Times.

But Trump did speak to a class of people left behind
economically by globalization, Volcker admitted, albeit “in kind
of an erratic way.”

Volcker also recounted
a tense meeting with President Ronald Reagan
prior to the
1984 election during which the president’s chief of staff ordered
the then-Fed chair not to raise rates, a move that echoes

Trump’s current attacks
on the politically independent

Read the full interview with Volcker over at The New York Times

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